Conversation with Blue
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I remember so clearly, sitting in my guidance counselor’s office in high school. I had just taken an assessment, rounding the bend, my final year there. And the assessment was designed to help me decide what was next, what was going to be my future career
And my guidance counselor, who was a woman I really respected, I had actually gotten some school credit by working for her in the office, basically, I’m not sure how that happened, I think, as I’m saying it out loud. But I did a lot of like, filing and sort of admin work for her. And so we had this meeting, she was meeting with each student about their assessment. And she, the first thing she said, was, that I did really well in math and science. And I was sitting up a little taller, I felt I felt pretty good about that. Then she said, but don’t pursue that in college, because it’s going to be too hard.
she was not telling other students who are male, the same thing. I’m sure of it. And I knew I was raised by a feminist, I knew that she was incorrect. And in fact, I did take a lot of math and science in college, and it was challenging in the best way. Um, but I still really valued her opinion. And so I didn’t just dismiss the whole conversation. I kind of waited to see where she was going with this. And so then she asked me, actually a really great question. She asked me, What do I love to do?
good starting point for deciding a career path, right? What do you what do you love to do? And I had to really think about it because I didn’t I wasn’t into sports, I didn’t have any, like real identifiable hobbies. I was kind of try all the things but didn’t really stick with much kind of gal. And so she said, Well, just just what comes to mind first,
I asked you that
also great question.
and I said, I love to have deep conversations with people. And she kind of chuckled at that. She said, Well, that’s not really a career. So we’ll have to think of something else. And now I laugh, I laugh as well. At the time I was kind of hurt. You know, I was trying to be really honest and share what came to mind first, and it made her laugh. But now I can’t I laugh about it because it’s absolutely my career
as a coach.
And I think it’s, it’s a thing that I’ve, I’ve always found ways to get into deep conversations. I’m not very good at chit chat. Not
very good with small talk.
And I’m so grateful that I have found and created a path that allows me to have those deep meaningful conversations regularly as I work with women who are pursuing their passion work. Right, so holding the kind of space my guidance counselor, I wish he had held more for me, right that that’s my it’s my career. So, um, my name is blue. And it is just like the color that is actually my name. Let’s get that out of the way first, um, and I hope that you will be inspired by the conversations that I’m sharing with you in this format. It’s been a dream for many years to share to open up the all the blessings that I receive the spark I receive from incredible conversations that I get to have almost every day. So I can’t share them all with you. I don’t know that they would all be useful to you. But I really wanted to choose and highlight some people that really inspired me in hopes that they will inspire you to. So I want to give you a little background around my life where I’m coming from, before you start hearing me interview other people about their life and where they’re coming from, because it occurs to me that my path may spark something for you as well. So I want to, I want to share a little, little glimpses into my path by sharing with you about some incredible women who have come and inspired me along the way. The first one is also in high school. This was actually before the guidance counselor conversation. And this was when I first started high school. And I had the opportunity to live in Kenya, in Nairobi with my family for that year, and attend the international school there, which I could do a whole podcast hour on various experiences from that it really opened my eyes to the world. And, of course, I met a lot of really fascinating, fascinating people and learned so much about myself in that process. What a pivotal age for that, right?
just say, this side note, I really believe we should all spend at least six months, ideally, in those growing up years, those teenage years, living in a culture that’s really different from our own, right, where the language is different, the smells are different. The foods are different, though, the rhythm of life is different than what we’re used to. I just, I just imagine how much more perspective and appreciation we would have for one another if we all got to have that experience. So that’s a big wish of mine that came, and perhaps that, that wishes, in some ways why I’m doing this podcast, it’s some glimpse into other ways of life. It’s so good, so nourishing for us. Okay, so while I was there, we had an assembly One day, the entire school rarely got together. But we were all called together that day. And we were so excited, there was lots of talking noise. And I don’t remember even being aware of why we were having an assembly
until the speaker came out onto the stage. And they had told us that there was a special speaker.
I don’t even remember hearing the name of the speaker. Before we got there. Maybe they said it. But they, whoever was introducing her was trying to get everyone’s attention to no avail. And then the speaker gets there and she has this long gray ponytail. And she begins her speech sounding like a chimpanzee. So imagine this sort of petite, elderly woman and this loud chimpanzee, like full on screaming sound comes out of her. And oh, she got our attention. It was incredible. And then she captivated us for I don’t know another hour, just with her stories with her insight with her love of the natural worlds. And you might be guessing by now who she is. Her name is Jane Goodall. What a gift that was. Fast forward into college, and
am with a small group of students. We are we’ve traveled across the country to the border of the United States and Mexico. We’re in a border town and we are learning about what’s happening. One of the different perspectives and one that really stuck with me was getting to sit down and hear from and ask questions of
migrants. undocumented migrants. So people who were fleeing for their lives, desperate, doing whatever it took to get to safety and a better life for their children. And I remember there was this woman telling her story. And I don’t remember all the details at this point it was a long time ago. But just all the suffering and loss along the way and her determination
to keep going. It’s pretty compelling, pretty inspiring. then fast forward to I’m done with college, I’m starting my career in the nonprofit world and find myself in
the county jail, teaching a class. And there are these women in the room? Who are first of all, just giving me side glance, right, like Who? Who is this? Who does she think she is. And so instead of getting into the teaching right away, I sit down, and I start to ask them, their names, and if any of them have children, and I share about my own child. And I can see the walls come down. And we spend a little time just hearing anyone who wants to share about their lives. These women, just so many odds stacked against them. Right, so much
suffering so many obstacles. And yet so much strength and resilience. Like their strength and resilience is so much more apparent.
In that situation, and all of these women are getting close to release, right? And I’m in that role of the guidance counselor, kind of guiding them like what’s next, what are your plans next, and starting to see them light up about what may be possible next. And be open to resources that I’ve come with, to help support that. And then fast forward to all these amazing women that I met in the birth world. Right women really owning and claiming the power of their bodies to give birth, including into water and having it be pleasurable. Hmm. Now, I had one child at that point, and it was not pleasurable, giving birth. Don’t get me wrong, it was powerful, and incredible, but it almost broke me almost killed me, actually. But getting to hear these other stories, opening up to other possibilities, really opened me up so that the next time I gave birth, lo and behold, it was pleasurable. It wasn’t water. Genuinely, it was beautiful. Fast forward later, I have a friend who I think is a woman.
And as we get closer, as I get to know her more, I find out that she is a woman, she’s a man.
Inside, it’s a struggle to really claim and to live out, being transgender in a world where that’s not accepted.
if there’s a violence against it, right, an active anti ping who this person is and then getting to witness him. Translate, transform, break free of who people think he should be. And spend more and more time with people who really We love him for who he is. And then a totally different friend living with her family off grid out in the desert. Generating money through a family circus. Yeah.
right and going to visit and helping them a little bit while I was there to do some stucco, I think on one of their walls. And just such an insight on what goes into building a structure. what life could be like, without a job that someone else decides, like really cultivating their own talent, to create their own lives. And I’m actually interviewing her you’ll, you’ll find her in a future podcast, by the way. Much more to that story since then. Yeah, so I just wanted to give you a glimpse of some of the experiences that I’ve gotten to have, and continue to have. I’m just in awe of the women that I have met, and the men too.
But this podcast is really about women. Why is that I want to just take a moment and address that.
We know, globally, there’s lots of data on this, that the best way to improve a community to pull a population out of poverty is to educate and support girls.
There’s a variety
of reasons why this is true. What I find most interesting is that girls tend to grow up to be the women who offer a kind of leadership that benefits everyone. And this makes sense marginalized communities in general. What’s good for them is good for all of us. The prime example, that’s often given around this, and I love it is people who worked really hard for disability rights. And one of the resulting things that happen from that movement is that structures, at least in the United States, buildings have to be built, accessible. So think ramps, elevators, wider doors, right, you have to accommodate the fact that there will be wheelchairs at some point, coming through a building. And this is good for all of us. So think about people pushing strollers, carrying large items, or being temporarily disabled at some point, all these things help everybody. So the same is true when women connect in with their passion, open up possibilities, so they can even connect to what they’re passionate about. And then follow that. Letting that be their guide. And often, that means creating a new path, one that hasn’t been created for them. And one that opens up new paths for other women, and for girls and for the future. That is good for all of us. So it is my desire that as you’re listening to this podcast, that something sparks for you. It doesn’t mean Oh, this woman’s doing that. So I better do that too. That’s kind of an old way of thinking. Um, you know, that we have to do what’s carved out for us so that there’s some shoulds here. But really allowing our own passions, your own passions to be ignited by what you hear the women that I interview, say, like what within them connects for you and it could connect in a way of, Oh, I wish I had that. Or I love that idea. And here’s how I could adapt it to my life,
or, you know,
just something that ignites something within you opens up further possibility, for sure that’s happening for me with every interview with every coaching session that I do, and I really, I’ve been wanting to create a podcast, I didn’t have a name for it before I didn’t, wasn’t aware of podcasts years ago, first thought about this in some ways. The idea first sparked in high school, even though my guidance counselor rejected it. But more recently, in the last decade or so I’d say, I’ve really wanted to have a way to encompass more women and people with more ideas, the kinds of ideas and insights that I have access to. I want to share I want to spread that and I’m so thankful that there are platforms more and more to do that kind of thing now because there are others like me, who’ve really opened up their world to the public, and I’ve benefited from that. So I hope that you will benefit from opening up my conversations to you. Thanks so much for being here. I can’t wait to find out what sparks for you in the interviews ahead. Enjoy. This is blue path of her own