How Do I Know I’m Ready?
A Coaching Session With
Rene RedDay
This is an unedited transcript:
Blue
Welcome to a path of her own. I’m Blue Russ. And I’m sitting down with women who are building success on their own terms, asking questions to get at the raw truth of the ups and downs of their journey. I hope that today’s interview sparked something within you.
Welcome to a very special podcast episode. Today I am coaching the amazing Rene Red Day. She’s the founder of building community. Here in Flagstaff, Arizona, so fun to connect with someone else in my neighborhood. And yeah, so, um, as you have probably been hearing, if you’ve been listening to this podcast, there’s a few different kinds of episodes. So sometimes it’s an interview style, sometimes it’s just me sharing my thoughts. And today is where I’m, I’m coaching another courageous volunteer to. And as we’re going along, I just want to mention that, you know, coaching is pretty flexible, it has to be. And sometimes we go really deep on mindset, and what are those internal barriers, fears, kind of walk you through those, and I, my work is with people who are running heartfelt businesses. And so it can really bring up a lot of stuff. So sometimes it’s that sometimes it is, what in the world am I doing? How do I get started? What does this look like? What are my options? And then other times, it’s, I have so many things in motion. How do I focus? So I have a feeling it might be a little bit of that last one here today with Renee. She’s always got a lot of really great projects going on. And but we’ll see where it goes. So anyway, without further ado, welcome, Rene.
Rene RedDay
Yeah, thanks for having me here. Blue, always good to spend some time with you and your soft, gentle ways on what comes back is typically are often simple, but powerful, and definitely has been a guiding force I think you were the force to are one of the main forces to help me even get this business off the ground, or even the confidence just started. So it’s fun to circle back around this way too, huh?
Blue
Yeah, my pleasure. Yeah, I feel like I remember like the look in your eyes that told me you’re going to birth your business a couple of years ago. And just getting to be the one to see that look, in your eyes is like always, oh, that’s there’s nothing better in life for me. Oh, good. Yeah, and then being local, it’s been really fun to see you, you grow. And really actually these ideas that you had actually have them come into fruition to view reality and, and benefit our community. So just for folks who are curious, before we dive in, what what is building community.
Building community is a an entrepreneurship and social entrepreneurship. So meaning wanting benefit for both the business but the folks that it’s serving as well. And in essence, really supporting local organizations, whether they be non private, nonprofit, public or nonprofit, really make sure that they are relevant and to community. So being that bridge in between organizations and the populations that they serve. Yeah, that’s the that’s the the biggest one there making sure that organizations are relevant. And how we do that is having an ongoing touch point with everyday folks, particularly vulnerable folks in our community as well. Mm hmm.
Blue
Yeah. Oh, I love that so much. It’s really easy for organizations to just get going and only talk to each other, like within staff or board members, and kind of lose track of what really are the needs of the people they serve. And I imagine these days, that shift and change that’s shifting and changing so much under a pandemic to so like another layer. I mean, life is always changing, anyway, but yeah, just to really, genuinely meet the needs and, and I know another piece that you do not that we’re here to just totally talk about your business but it’s so great. Is what I hear you doing too, is helping Seeing people collaborate, you know, organizations that maybe overlap in some services to really collaborate with each other rather than feeling redundant or, and then other needs get neglected. Right. So really making sure that that happens, too.
Yeah, yeah. So really, I mean, the focus of it all. I mean, it really just boils down to relationships. You know, I’m lucky that I’m able to sit at many leadership circles within our community. I’m also live in Sunnyside, I’m definitely always been engaged within communities, community event, community partners, either through my work had on my personal hat. And so wherever those relationships can be beneficial, is really what I want to help. And I think that a lot of organizations have touch points, with the folks that they serve through surveys or checklists or something or a call for it. What we’re working to develop is kind of a standing Community Council, where they’re the relationship, building community, we’ll make sure that the relationship is ongoing and maintained and genuine so that, you know, any one of us if we get a survey, if it’s on a bad day, we, you know, everything’s horrible. If we get it on a good day, yes, they’re fabulous. But if it’s on the ongoing basis, and we’ll probably get a mix of both of what’s working and what’s not. And this so that can happen with internally, within organizations, within community partners or organizations with the larger communities to wherever there’s a relationship to be developed and had in nurtured, genuine and authentic. And those are the pieces of pie that we really want to give support to and community.
Blue
Yes, yes. And what you said is just, it’s vital for what yeah, like you said, whether your organization is a nonprofit or private business, that is, yeah, so all you entrepreneurs, business folks listening, hear that, right? It’s like, I know, there’s a lot of business advice, like survey people to find out what they need and want. And I find, yeah, those those relationships, those conversations are really where you get what people really want and need. Yeah, in a way that is hard to formulaic ly put on paper. Awesome. All right. Anyway, so what’s what’s brewing, Rene? And how might I support you today in brewing?
Well, let’s see what is brewing? Well, I mean, the good part about what’s going on, but it’s also the challenge, right? I think with any entrepreneur to the areas of of growth can be exciting. But then there’s also then the other challenge. So I launched this business, just, I think, going on three years now. Right. And so the first year was really getting my legs under me just trying to figure it out. So yeah, I think I took you know, an initial year to just kind of get in tune with what I wanted to offer, and then take some class on how to do that. And I think I started with the branding, just so that I felt Yes, this is a business. So did that branding piece pretty early on. And then slowly had some contracts come my way. And I have to admit, originally, I selfishly wanted to be Flagstaff centric, be here close to home and close to my daughter, and I’m still able to do those things. But the first contract happened to be with Coconino Coalition for children and youth which had me I got that contract a month before lockdown. So I was like, oh, connect with the whole county and then now it’s locked. Know how do we do that? But it got me thinking. And so this is kind of where this question is for you. You know, I made connections in each of those outlying communities and valley and Williams and Paige and for dunya and said, Hey, will you be my touchpoint? Will you be my touch point for that community? Because many communities you know, you trust more so someone that comes from that circle knows it inside it out, and particularly in outlying areas where resources come and go, like just, you know, easily as grants fall off and otherwise, so you really have someone that was placed in that community. So that was a big leap. Come, I think, just last year, and And so poof had three granted small but touch points and each of those communities and now I’ve wanted to maintain that pulse within the county as well as within Flagstaff. So some of the things that I need to have done participation in meetings, hearing what people are saying is needs would probably leave me with community meetings most days of the week. And so now I’ve thought to branch out so I am seeking three new Flagstaff centric people to participate in the the county diversity councils, the Hispanic Advisory Council, the African dysphoria Advisory Council in the indigenous peoples Advisory Council, as well as some schools in the community and housing. But that’s just to say that in a very short time, I went from, you know, a building community party of one, which that wasn’t going to be sustainable either, to now three liaisons and outlying communities, one ambassador, and potentially three more liaisons in Flagstaff. And so I think, for me, one is just that encouragement, like, Yes, this is the piece of the pie. And, you know, this is part of the growing. But the other piece, I always try to balance out, you know, I’ve heard that some entrepreneurships can not succeed because they grow too fast. And so for me, it’s a matter of, you know, each one of these people are super part time. So it’s not like I, you know, threw on six full time employees, but even, you know, six very part time employees is a lot and a couple, you know, in the first years of doing that. So I’m not quite sure where I’m centering that question around, but I guess it’s just around that, that growth, and, you know, considerations on whether it’s, I believe it’s necessary growth, but if it’s sustainable growth as well.
Blue
Yeah, so I yeah, this is such a great question that you I mean, I think so many can really resonate with is like, we want our businesses to grow. And if they, when they grow too quickly, it can just be overwhelming and not a good thing, and not sustainable. So I remember years ago, a mentor telling me, I said something like, Oh, I was very early in my business. And I was like, Oh, I I wish I had a waiting list. Like I can’t wait until I’m so busy. People have to wait to see me. And she said, she said yeah, well, it’s a good thing. It doesn’t work just like that. Because he wouldn’t be ready for that. And I realized he was totally right. And no way was I ready to have a full client roster. So. So it’s definitely a reasonable like it’s a it’s a concern, a proactive concern I’m hearing you have my first question with anything, when you’re expanding is like, is this what you want? Is this what you envision? Like, is this where you’re headed anyway?
Yeah, I mean, I think I could say that. Yes. I mean, it was not him. But yeah, we’re on a podcast, so I should say it out loud.
Blue
And do you want to admit that?
Yeah, yeah, I do think it’s, I do think it’s necessary because especially when, you know, I had to realize that there is most definitely value for this in Flagstaff, but a lot of it is going to be based on county relationships, as well. And so to maintain the level of relationships and kind of like working professionalism with multiple communities, I would for sure, say yes, I need help to be able to do that to make sure that the relationships are meaningful and relevant. So I would for sure say it’s necessary and meaningful.
Blue
Yeah, yeah. Great. Okay. So that’s where that’s where you want to be headed. And what yeah, what what feels like could go wrong, like what’s the fear? Right now?
Um, I think just Like any, you know, business or nonprofit, I’m not necessarily a nonprofit, but you know, the sustainability piece on, you know, I have been mindful of paying myself a close to fair salary, let’s just say I won’t even pay myself a fair salary just yet. But it was to make sure that I had some funds in the back to be able to use. And so those savings are what I’m building these off of. I have more recently built kind of a menu of options, because they think even over the last couple of years work is coming to me without too much advertisement or proclaiming what I do in community. And so ask CEP come my way. And so I’ve said yes to those asks, but now I have created within the last month, a menu of services and the price points that go along with that, because it hasn’t been promoted. The investments in that more global intervention haven’t been invested in yet. But I’m still dropping into that savings. With the belief that having these liaisons is going to help me expand that business, and so that it’s worth it to dip into that savings to do it until the menu becomes available. And everyone comes just rushing my way to get this surfaces for their, for their business. Right. So I guess, you know, the one hesitation is, first off, probably sustainability. But then the next part is also just you know, I guess this is a safe space, I can say it even on your podcast, but that piece of you know, can I manage that? You know, what is that? What will that look like and trying to develop the systems that keeps us on the same page, keep the work for them meaningful for the liaisons meaningful? So I think this sustainability, and then just the overall management systems are the things that you know, have me thinking about here and there to make sure that I grew in the right way.
Blue
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, thank you. So I’m really hearing that that sustainable ability piece? Like can you continue to pay them? And is it also within you to manage this to keep this going to, to have this really be productive for them? For you for communities? Yeah, yeah. How do you know, Rene, when you are capable of something you haven’t done yet?
I like that question. How do I know? Well? I like the question of how do I know so maybe I’ll go, I’ll come to that in a minute. But I think part of me you know, I’m an Aries person that’s like, let’s get this done. Let’s do this. I’m from Boston, I’m like, I can handle this. So there’s this, you know, kind of like, inner drive that I know that I have, you know, some internal power to tap into that says, if I’m excited about something, believe in something, and want to do something, I’ll make it happen. So I think that those are those. That’s that bigger piece of how do I know? And then the other is, and honestly, even as you were talking about, you know, on, we were first working together and at a retreat, and you saw that glisten in my eye, still having that kind of physical feeling like in my belly that just says, this is exciting, this is good. People are coming to you and you’re not even promoting it too hard, you know. So I think that those are the pieces that can fill me up. So a little bit of that, you know, body wisdom that says this is really exciting, and you have lots of skills that you’ve used in various capacities in the community in the past, do you have this in your skill set to be able to do and then the other part is just that, you know, that grit that is just part of who I am and grit, meaning, you know, the stick with sadness as long as it’s exciting not like grit. Stick with it when you’re, you know, dragging your feet on the ground and doing something kicking and screaming, you know. So that’s what I’m liking about this part of the work. Or even having my own businesses, I know that each of these pieces of the pie, you know, they’re like, even a menu of services that have like six different services. They’re each like little mini baby. So you know, that’s, yes, I can’t wait to take care of all of you and wait to see where you grow. So getting those, you know, keeping that excitement is a driver for me. So that body reaction, but then also feeling kind of mentally stimulated by it and emotionally to like, when I can feel those little, you know, juices and butterflies in my belly in a good way and saying, No, this is exciting. It’s exciting. It’s hard, but it’s fading.
Blue
Yeah, yeah, definitely. I think it’s so one of the destabilizing things for me is when I can look at some kind of example like it like, Okay, here’s the thing that I didn’t know if I could do, but I knew it was for me. Like a big thing comes to mind is like parenting. Right? I, I knew I was going to have children. And I didn’t have any idea how to be apparent, though. But I just knew like it was it was a yes, for me to take that on to find out. So it sounds like that you’ve got all the elements, that and track record of doing things successfully. Even though you weren’t totally sure how you were going to do it.
Right? Yeah, no, and I love that piece of it, too. And that, you know, analogy as far as parenting, because you and I have talked about this too, that that wave of entrepreneurship on you know, it always, or any job really, but especially entrepreneurship, has some, you know, real ups and downs, you know, real like, Yes, I know exactly why I’m doing this and other days, like what the heck, you know, so what else can you do and half my workload right now, I was working for someone else. But I like the analogy with parenting, because it is one of those things where, you know, you don’t always know but you make the best decision at the moment you do the best she can. And then there’s some fruits that you get to see. And there’s some challenges that are there too. And I like that. And I know that you know that some of my work has revolved around kind of family, Family Development and Family Engagement pieces. So that was analogy was very relevant to me. And I think, probably the most realistic to remember to tie into this entrepreneurial journey to that it’s ups and downs and full of someone knowns at some great moments and some hard moments and make the best decision that we can in a moment, you know, during each moment, so I love that you shared that because my mind I’m staring somewhere else. And it’s like, it sounds like such simple things. It’s what I love with coaching with you too. It’s like these simple things, but they get hardwired in a different way and being able to talk about them, you know, my staring off was a little bit of hardwiring going on right there.
Blue
Yeah, yeah, there’s definitely power in that having that reflected by someone was a different perspective. So like, here’s what I hear you say, here’s what you know, just can help us think differently about it or be reminded. I remember at one point hearing someone say, I need to hear some new thoughts because I’m my I can’t generate any new ones just in my own head. Like I need other I need some input from elsewhere. Yeah, and then I also want to highlight you said body wisdom. And so that I think is our best guide right? Like we can tune in and whatever you notice is a yes and a no within your body. That’s like our best compass. Right. There’s lots of I think I first heard about this from like finding your own North Star Martha Beck you know, the mother of all life coaches. Sir. And it is that connecting in with with what is for you from that place, rather than an analytical like, is that is there you know, can I look to a study about the proper growth of a business or can I like how is someone else doing it which might be in formative not saying don’t look at those things. But at the end of the day, when we’re making decisions about our business, however, we’re moving forward with them or not moving forward with them. That’s really our best answer. Is that, that whether it’s a fire in your belly, that’s a common feeling I feel that, or do you feel it in your heart, wherever you feel that? So it sounds like, you know, what that feeling is, and you’re having it with this growth that you’re experiencing? Yeah, that is very moment
to actually get the butterflies in my belly right now, and in a good way, because some people could say, well, you know, usually people say that with nerves. And for me that that butterfly, but with like, a light up kind of feeling behind it is, like you said, at least showing me something that I’m excited about. And I think that maybe that’s where that grit comes in. If I’m excited about something, I know that I’ll find a way to make those pieces happen. That’s where that grit is like, I can do it, you know, I need a few more people on my team. Pedaling in the same direction or figuring being willing to figure out the right direction along with me. But yeah, kind of that Guiding Light is that kind of, you know, lit up little fireflies in my belly there. And it feels good even just to hear you kind of reiterate my own words got me to feel that again, in, you know, in my own being, which is helpful and motivating. Because it doesn’t mean it’s going to be easy, breezy development, but that, you know, exciting and passionate work. And that’s what I’m going forward to something that lights me up each day.
Blue
Yeah, yeah, I’m glad you mentioned that. I was thinking that too. Just, especially for anyone listening, we’re not talking about, you’re gonna it’s gonna feel amazing every day. Right? It’s like, if it feels painful and awful every day, the definitely reassess what you’re doing, but it is it you know, it is important to, to build in those times to reflect with a coach with another person with your journal, whatever it may be, especially as those fears arise, anytime doing something new or growing a business. There is fear. Fear is just part of the process. I think it just helps us reality check, like, is this the right direction? Do I am I? Am I the one to do this next step? And if you’re, as long as you’re that’s feeling aligned, even if you’re terrified, you don’t know how it’s gonna happen. You need help with it. Like, all that is the figuring out part, right? Those are the logistics. And like, I always say the the heart is the leader, right? So, of course, I’m working with heart driven entrepreneurs. So that’s a given. We are we’re doing this because we’re called to do and we love to do it, how were you connect to that? And all the other things are just logistics to help support that. So that’s the question, right? It’s like, what does your heart have to say? What are those butterflies in your belly? You know, where you feel that and then then it becomes a matter of strategy. And the other thing I just want to really highlight underline three times that you said is you don’t have to figure it out alone. Right. And the very name of your business building community is a great reminder of that, right? It’s like you You are this is a co creation. Every business is a co creation. And yours is like very front and center, a co creation. So. So in terms of Yeah, how are you going to manage those people? Well, you’re you’re creating a team in which you’re going to work together to figure that out. Yeah. So I love that. Just highlighting that. So if you’re ever like in the swirl of Oh, no, I have to be the boss and have it all figured out six months in advance. And which isn’t even possible, right? Because you don’t know what will you be working on? What will come up in those communities? What? What needs what questions what organizations will come into your circuit? You can’t know, at this point, anyway. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. And actually even hearing you say that put me a little bit more at peace to you know, I think I did, you know, choose folks to be working with that. We already had some context in some relationship, you know, with each other just from you know, I just chose another community builder that I knew in those areas right and, but also was able to be honest snap with them to say, Hey, this is a startup, I have a rough sketch in mind, I am definitely a big picture person. So will you ride this with me so that we can define it in a way that works for both of us. And I think part of me felt questioned whether that was professional enough. But then there’s another piece of me that just in hearing what you were saying now about, you know, the building community piece, it’s like, No, we should all have a voice. So you guys tell me what this, you know, looks like, you know, so, you know, set up a protocol where we meet once a month and touch base and talk to you. And, you know, so have some rough systems and some tasks that they’re responsible for in the month. But really, how we move in grow, it really will be a little building community family that just determines it for itself internally, which I don’t know, just even hearing you remind me what my own business name was, reminded me that it’s not something to feel guilty about that I don’t have, you know, a bunch of forms for them to fill out or, you know, this whole year long calendar of what responsibilities are, but more will you roll with me so that we can be responsive. And just after hearing you and mentioning that, that actually makes me feel a heck of a lot better to
Blue
goodness, Renee, I just met exactly like, that is the exact best manager, as far as I can tell, is coming in with that, like you, you’re holding the vision, you have a scaffold in place, right? We need some kind of structure in which to work in, and you have those things, right. You’re, you’re leading the way you’re committed to this. You put some basic scaffold in place to meet and have conversation and then co create it from there. That’s like, that’s how we build community. 1,000%. So you’re doing it,
I think I did it to hear that from you today, too. So building it internally and externally, very similar to my new little brochure of menus, it’s so funny of the things that are being posed to share with community that still has those final message is just for me to you know, and I mean, yes, it is. I love it. I love it, that what you’re putting out there is something to me, you know, to not only do but to really embed within myself, so Well, thank you for that. Because then that can put, you know, that part of my brain that’s been nagging a little bit to rest. And just to say it’s actually an exciting journey, and you were upfront with folks to to say, hey, we’re gonna roll with the punches, folks, because let’s see who needs us? And then we’ll see how we respond in what we do. But yeah, I don’t even know if you can notice it. But that smile on my face earlier, so it got pretty dark.
Blue
This is an audio recording, but if you could see her yeah, you just You’re glowing. So so beautiful, beautiful. I quick story, because I’m a storyteller. Is that wack when I worked in in the nonprofit field, I worked, I had, I mean, somehow, I stumbled into this job working for an organization that was part of a brand new collaborative project projects to serve people experiencing homelessness. And it was, I think, seven or eight organizations got together and built one big campus. So people on site could find shelter and food and mental health care and substance abuse counseling. So we kind of all the things we could sync up the organizations involved could think of, and what was built into the project, were literally empty spaces in the building, and extra staff in the building for whatever we weren’t thinking of. Nice. And I think that was the best part, actually, because we’ve all went into it with we don’t know what this how this is going to work, right? We’re imagining it’s going to be really helpful that people don’t have to go across town. It’s been their whole day getting services. But we don’t know what that’s going to look like and what other needs are going to arise as a result. And we didn’t have to know. We didn’t have to know and we were blessed with grants and donors who believed in our ability to just listen and find out. And, and then we did and I tell you what people we well, one of the we had we were blessed with this community organizer and That is a total skill set. That was a unique skill set to, to really bring people together and create like solutions. That’s really what I see a community organizer. And so there were a couple of key community organizers involved. And they just created a pathway for people to say, what they needed. And what they wanted, was to be of service. For whatever reason, all these providers we are, we all are that you were there, we want to be of service as a staff community. We didn’t think of that. And so then it became a part and parcel of this. So we had a veterans group that was there to help veterans navigate the VA, there was a gentleman’s club that was there, and they would fundraise to help families as they got housing to get furniture and food and whatever they needed. There was a ladies group that fundraise to do makeovers, like, you know, it was just amazing. So you never know, when you learn it, you
never do and I love it. And it’s that system of and that’s definitely at the heart of what building community is that the reciprocity between either internally within an organization or externally, either with other partners or with the community or with both? And just, you know, because to me, a relationship isn’t a relationship unless it’s reciprocal, right. And so, I hear you saying that about, you know, the community saying, yes, thank you for food, thank you for housing and services. But I want to do something to you know, I mean, we know as doers and givers and helpers in the community, it feels good to do that. It feels good. Not necessarily in I just want to clarify, not like, oh, it felt so good to help these poor people. But it actually feels good to be in communion with diverse people, like, let’s be doing this together as like, equals not like me helping you poor person, but I see you as a full human. And I hope you see me as a full human let’s, let’s let’s figure out how to work together so that you know, that reciprocal peace, so really what you were talking about with that collaborative of organizations, you know, in a small way, building community wants to be part of that community organization, the one that really just says, you know, yeah, you know, Jane and Mary just, you know, got food and public assistance for this or that, but they also want to be doing something for the community. Hey, Mary, guess what, you know what, I go to those Indigenous Peoples Council advisory council meetings, is that something that you want to be a part of, or we have this other group or we’re doing an event you want to jump in on it? And to me, that’s what building community really is developing first off relationships, but reciprocity within the relationships, not saying tit for tat, like we did something for you, and now you do something for us, but just in general, that just says, Yeah, you want to jump in on this and jump in on this or you want to take a back seat, but you know, someone else who might want to jump in and go grab, you know, just those organic, genuine, authentic relationships that have that component of reciprocity. Feels good for everybody.
Blue
Hmm, well, that beautiful Well, I would love to hear from you, Rene, what you’re taking away and what a next step might be. You know, I’m gonna ask those things.
Yes, I do I do. I think what I’m taking away is again, as this growth happens to check in with myself like with that body feel like on how does this field and if the sense that I get is challenging, but exciting and beneficial, then just stay on that track? And if there’s you know, whoa signs within me then heed that whoa for a minute until I figure out how to maneuver it or another so just you know, again that reminder to be doing the body check in on you know, how how growth is feeling and how momentum is feeling and making sure that I have it as a really nice jaunt not like this marathon you know, our sprint run that I’m you know, just charging it things but yeah, Have a mindful and mindful hustle. So that’s definitely something that I’ll take as a reminder with this growth. And next steps. Well, I know one right after I’m getting off the call with you here today is checking in with me seeking a virtual assistant, again, extremely part time, but starting with a virtual assistant, and then also, three other Flagstaff liaisons, hopefully, from diverse backgrounds. So to keep my eye on that prize, to have to rope in three, three to four more part time, folks to help out the crew. And I think that that will make it feel meaningful, collective forward motion. So I think it’s to remind myself to get out of my own way, and it’s okay to invite these new people in, go find them, do them, onboard them, and see where that goes. So those are definitely my next steps. And then, as always, and this isn’t just because podcast, but staying in touch with coaches like yourself to that to give those gentle reminders. I’m an over thinker, by nature, I’ve tried to like write it on papers and burn it up and let it go. And it’s a work in progress. It still happens. But I think after sessions with you, I just feel a little bit more centered and less ruminating about next steps. And that is extremely helpful in moving any project forward to get off my thinking wheel and just feel like okay, trust it for a while. Okay, you got you got the hit. That’s felt, yes. Just accept it and take the exciting piece and let the rumination part just step aside for a little while, forever if it wants, but my guess is a little while.
Blue
Yeah, yeah. Beautiful. Wonderful. Oh, well, thank you so much, Renee, for your generosity of sharing this coaching session with people listening to this podcast. And if you’re listening, I would love to hear what you are taking away from hearing you know, what did you hear with for yourself? What are the lessons for yourself? What are the reminders? What are the reflections? And what are some steps you’re going to take next? I would love to hear that you can find me over at a path of her own.com And for anyone in Arizona or just interested in you, Renee, where can they find you?
They can find me at building community flagstaff.com Um, so that’s also the email address Renee at building community flagstaff.com on Facebook and Instagram and Twitter, soon getting some help. So I’m more present on those there is there is some that are there is some presence that’s there. The best way especially if someone’s interested in learning more, like I said, it’s all about relationships to me too. So reaching out via email and we can start a conversation but Facebook or Instagram or Twitter, it can give you probably a little bit of inkling of things that I’m either interested in or a part of. But I also love the the personal Missae email as well.
Blue
Beautiful. All right, well, we’ll put all that in our show notes and a path of her own.com For simplicity sake to brilliant. Thank you again, Renee.
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. Like I said, I’m enjoying the little firefly parts in my belly right now. So thank you for you’re helping me with that excitement and make sure I acknowledge it. Have a great one.
Blue
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