Holding Space:

An Interview with Ashley Burnett

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Blue  

Welcome, I’m sitting here with one of my favorite humans and a pivotal mentor in my life in the past. Ashley Burnett’s, and I, you know, I just realized she’s the first person who’s come on this podcast twice. That’s how amazing she is. By way of introduction, if you don’t know Ashley, I actually love what you have on your website these days, so Oh, I can’t get to it. Okay, that’s fun. All right, well, official BIOS begun anyway. So Ashley, she is someone who I always think of like the word fierce love, when I think of Ashley, like, she just has this passion for the planet for a better world for a more just equitable, heart centered planet. And the way that she does that, practically speaking, is through her work with entrepreneurs to creatives to really help us make more money and work a lot less so that we have the energy to do these really innovative things that we’re here to do. So. She’s just such a shining example of doing that herself. And there’s so much more to say, but I want to hear your voice. So welcome, Ashley.

Ashley Burnett  

Hello, everybody. I’m so excited to be here. And thanks blue for having me. Again. I’m, I’m excited to, to and honored to be you know, your first second guest. Anytime guests. Yeah.

Blue  

So if after this, everyone’s like, I need more of absolutely talking. There’s more if you just go back like probably a year ago. But today, I really wanted to have you on one because you have some really awesome things coming up, which we’re going to talk about, and I want to invite everyone who’s listening to take part I’m going to take part, I’m really excited about it. And I want to talk about something that we touched on last time we spoke, but it just feels really present right now for me is this idea of holding space, I feel like you are a genius at this, you teach other people to do this. And so I just want to dig a little bit deeper into your experience of holding space. So first of all, what does it mean to you to hold space or to be held in space?

Well, you know, I mean, I think about, about, especially, you know, and I support women, primarily entrepreneurs, folks who identify as women, mostly not limited to, but and in terms you know, historically, like, as women, we we hold so much space for others, we are constantly, you know, showing up for our families, our loved ones or friends and you know, now that we’ve kind of exited and moved back into the workforce and creating our own businesses holding all of that as well. So there’s just so much space holding that we do as women already. And in terms of being held, I think it’s you know, imperative that we give ourselves the permission to be held and on the other side of that space holding now that can look like so many different things, right. But for myself as an entrepreneur, you know, being held and supported by community, by coaches by a team by you know, different various circles that I can get myself in where I feel safe, supported, loved, not isolated, right, I think in especially what we’ve been through with a pandemic is crucial to our long term sustainability and success as foreigners you know, and so, I I feel very passionately about this idea of giving ourselves to be on the other side of that space holding and being in community and being able to you know, not have this one on one what one on one to myself, you know, experience one on one like to my computer experience right As a solopreneur, couldn’t potentially right. And so I just think it’s so important to, to get ourselves immersed and allow for ourselves to be held and guided and supported and not trying to do everything ourselves. So that’s, I could go on and on and on. But that’s where I guess I’ll stop.

Blue  

Yeah, it’s true. The whole, like, do it yourself is a lie. I mean, it’s, nobody’s doing anything themselves, actually. First of all, right, um, but we can also choose to intentionally collaborate to intentionally seek support. Yeah, so I feel like it’d be, I always love when it like really hits home. Like, here’s a practical example of this. So I just two situations come front of mind for me when I think about my own experience of being held. So these are things that are present for me when I’m holding space. For others, I’m really aware of the honor it is to hold that space. You know, especially when it’s a, you’re holding someone through something really difficult, right? Like, that’s, that’s where I feel like it’s most tangible, most noticeable when you feel it. And so I think the first time I really felt that was when I was going through my healing journey, which led me into health coaching many, many, many moons ago. And I was really, I was looking for answers. And I think like, so many of us going to medical doctors that just, that system is just not set up. To really hold space, I would say, like, at a minimum. And I remember finding this just seeking out like, nothing was working. So just kind of like, well, I’ll try another thing. And I went to see a homeopath, who sat with me for an hour, and asked me all kinds of questions. If anyone listening has ever visited a homeopath or a naturopath, you know, they’re very thorough, right? It’s not a quick like, what are your top three symptoms? Here’s a prescription, you know, it’s like, gosh, you know, do you you know, do you run hot? Do you run cold? How, what’s your emotional state, like, all the things and, and when I there was a moment, I remember where the practitioner was asking and hearing my answers all the way through, not like stopping or being in a hurry in any way. And I just felt this, like, Oh, I’m like, he’s, he really cares. He really wants to help me. He’s like, and I just started crying like I you know, just, and of course, he was like, what are the tears about? You know, and we explored that. So that was the first like, moment, I really felt and recognized what it is to be held. I’m gonna pause on on the next story about you. But I wonder for you actually, like, do you remember that first feeling of being held?

Yeah, I mean, you know, I think there’s so many different scenarios. It’s kind of hard to choose just one. I mean, I think, you know, I majored in dance in college, and I was mentored by a number of my professors, and in a way that, you know, they went above and beyond kind of what the professor role would have would have been right. And I think there was a level of like, for instance, you know, one of my, my dear mentors, at that time, Cynthia Oliver, incredible, incredible dance artist. And she, you know, I asked her to, to choreograph my senior piece, she did not get any additional money to do this. Like, she did it out of the kindness of her heart. And, you know, at that time, I was I had just gone through a, my parents getting divorced at like, age 20. Right. And so I was, you know, in my senior year of high school or college, I was 21. At that point, I’m working through this experience with her through dance, you know, and it was just really powerful to kind of have that one on one support, especially because my mom was my dance teacher growing up, and my dad was my theatre director and I came from you know, this this arts family, but it’s different when you know, your mom is your dance teacher and there was always a slight bit of friction there like not wanting to take direction from my mom and the other right to this mentor. Now you know, who is you know, really taking me through this, this process allowing For me to process my anger and disappointment and frustration, you know, through an artistic process like that, and I would say that was probably one of my, like core memories that kind of comes up around being held in that way. And so that’s why kind of coming back to the beginning of this conversation of that can look like so many different things. Right. Right now, you know, we talk a lot about, well, I’ve been also held as a coach by other coaches and communities. And I feel like, that’s one of my favorite ways to be held and hold space now. But at the time, it was it looked completely different, you know, 20 plus years ago, or whatever. So yeah, that’s one of the pieces that really comes to mind, though, for me, and to be able to have that space held where, you know, we were processing through journal entries, we were processing through movement, and then created a piece out of that. And you know, the kind of catharsis that came from that experience, too.

Blue  

Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I want to tell the story of you holding space, and then learn more about how you do that. Um, so yeah, along those lines of as a coach seeking out coaching, there was a point some years ago, um, time is just such a weird thing. Now, I’m always like, how many years ago was that anyway? Several, four or five years ago? Probably close to 10. Yeah, but, um, I, and you mentioned dance, right? So I know I’ve said this many times to you. But the reason that I hired you, Ashley was I knew I needed a coach, I knew I needed a guide I was feeling and so like, Who is that going to be? There’s a lot of noise, right? There’s a lot of offers out there. There’s a lot of people putting up their, their shingle as a coach who may or may not be very skilled, you know, yet, that’s fine. But I really wanted someone who could like hold it down, hold it, hold it for me as an experienced coach. And, and you literally came dancing across my social media feed. So you were doing some, some dancing, I think on Facebook, in a video, and I was like, Oh, I think she’s the one I think we had met years before that, and a training and I kind of had some idea that you were coaching coaches, but didn’t really know how to follow you closely. So, so that best scrolling moments of my life. And so I reached out and you’re like, yeah, that’s, you know, you describe what you do, which is exactly what was looking for and, and then I ended up coming to your property. And I just remember sitting down on the floor, and there’s a theme here when I’m feeling really held, just crying, just tears, tears, tears, I think that that relief that like, I don’t have to hold it together, I can fall apart in this space is just so healing. And as a result over time of not just that moment, but that moment started it of working with you. I ended up cutting my workload in half doubling or more, I think my income so you know, even outside of those tangible results, that internal, like, oh, I don’t have to hold it all together, I don’t have to do it all myself. I don’t, I can let some things go, I can set boundaries, I can, you know, come with more intention to my work. So that’s something you’re so brilliant at. So I want to like switch gears as a space holder. That perspective like how does that work?

How so? So in terms of how to hold space? Easily?

Blue  

Yeah. What are some like key things of that make a person a good space holder, as you see here?

Yeah, I mean, this is this is tough to write. There’s so many different components that come into it.

Blue  

Before you dive into actually I just want to acknowledge that like, this is a this is part of a bigger teaching that you do so it’s really involves you really get deeper with people about their own kind of like, what does it mean in their business? All sorts of things, but space holding definitely being one of them that facilitator skill is something that is like a whole course that we’ll talk about, too. But yeah, just like some some glimpses maybe of

print. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think first off, like we can’t assume that you know, so Fresh out of fresh off the boat for lack of a better terminology, we’re going to be the most incredible space holders, right? And so, of course, experience comes to mind, right? Like there, you can be an incredible space holder without a ton of experience, right. But, you know, at the at the point that I decided to go to coaching and become a coach and get that training, I had already been holding space teaching dance, and as a massage therapist for 10 years prior to that, right. And so there were, there was always a way that I was holding that space, whether that be teaching a room of children or adults, or choreographing a piece and, you know, producing that, that a show to holding space one on one as a massage therapist, right. And so again, like I have to just come back to like space holding can look so many different ways. And that was all that was all before I became a coach, which then, you know, I ended up coaching one on one first, and then shifting into group work, which has really been my sweet spot. Right. So I’m, I’m derailing a little bit, but I feel like, it’s good to know, kind of the background of you know, what, what, what has that journey been like, for me? Well, that’s kind of what it has looks like. I think there’s, there’s training as well, right. So there’s, there’s experience, and there is training, absolutely get training to learn how to become an advanced, grounded, leader and facilitator, like that is crucial. And I’ll tell you this, I did a training. I don’t even know how long ago, this was probably like 767 years ago now doing a linden bomb was the teacher. And I did an advanced facilitators training program at that point and learned ritual and ceremony and how to hold space now I had been teaching and holding space and leading groups in one way shape or form for and running my business for 15 years before that, right like pushing 15 years before that, when you take that next step, and you do a train, you know, a training program that helps you to become a better leader facilitator space holder more confident, that’s gonna just, you know, zoom you forward, right? So there’s, there’s that element to, and then I think there’s just like a level of, of deep listening, that has to kind of come into that space holding experience, we do a lot of that, as coach, right, as a coach, blue, as you know, and, and so I think there’s a level of just understanding that you’re really holding space, and you have to learn how to listen deeply to someone else. And again, those are skills that can be trained, you know, taught in a training, I am not an advocate for going out and getting 8 million trainings, and, you know, 8 million, you know, advanced training programs, right? Like, we don’t need all of that, but absolutely no, get get some some sort of foundation to become a coach and in you know, unleash your impact of the offering that we’ll talk a little bit about in the work that I do. That is not just for coaches, those that is for many different types of space holders yoga to you know, create an holistic space holders, right yoga, teachers, teachers, therapists, massage therapists, you know, this, that and the other. But there’s, there’s ways that we can learn to become better, better space holders and more efficient space holders and more deep, you know, deeply listening kind of space holders. And so those are like, some of the key pieces that kind of are popping out in terms of answering your question. It sounds

Blue  

like experience of practice guidance. And I don’t think you exactly said it, but we kind of touched on earlier, which is like, also having the experience of being held like that.

Well. That’s the third piece that’s the the other piece that was just coming to mind was giving yourself the opportunity to be held and I think this is really important as ambitious, change making entrepreneurial women there are there are times when you know, look I’m a double Fire sign, you know, there’s times when I’m like, I got this, you don’t need to tell me what to do, you know, giving yourself that opportunity to be on the other side, where you’re learning, you’re taking in the information, you’re having this space held for you, and you have a container, an example of that experience that you want to create. For others, I think it’s imperative to to the growth and, and the, you know, delivery when you’re kind of in that space, and that that was crucial for me, giving myself that that model or container to be held in so that I could get a felt experience of that, and then do it my way creative my way. You know? That’s been huge.

Blue  

Mm hmm. Yeah, definitely. And I just want to throw in there, I just, I think it’s like, there’s a skill set of holding space for people in person. And then there’s the skill set of holding space virtually. Which is like another kind of learning curve, I think so many of us have been under, where virtual, at times virtual is the only option. So how do you translate some of that, and I think you really do that. Better than most anyone,

though, I mean, I think I think that’s where we have to get creative. And certainly our accompany Ashley, and CO had to get creative during COVID. Although we were actually we were just kind of slotted to be on this on this path. And on this journey of shifting into online to because unleash your impact was created back in 2016, as a four day retreat, like an immersive in person, four day retreat, and we let it in 2016 17. And then I shelved it. For 2018, and I got pregnant, and I had my child, Quentin. And so he came along in 2019. And I was like, I know, I’m resurrecting this program and 2020 Right, and so, we had already been like, slotted to, you know, start to build this out. And then COVID hits, we had already been building this out as an online course, right? Because I knew I was like, this information needs to get out to more people. And we want to, I wanted to build it in a way that the experience and the community aspects are just so important to me, and my work gets translated, you know, through the screen, so I kept asking questions, you know, this is before COVID How can I give them this retreat experience virtually and and have it feel like and you were in salsa sisterhood, too. And I think that part of those retreats were virtual, too. We were asking these questions like, How can we make this feel like this beautiful retreat experience, even from the comfort of their own home? Right? And, and what are the pros to that? What are the cons to that? And how can you kind of work with it. So in unleash, you know, now we teach that, like, that’s, those are part of the skills that you get to learn of, you know, how to make things translate virtually, how you can, you know, create both like this incredible in person experience, but also do it online, too. And you get to be creative with it, you know, and, and, and yeah, virtual can never, I think, take the place of, you know, an incredible in person experience, it’s different, it is different. But there’s ways that you can really work with it to have your community feel super safe, super held, super supported, super connected. And also, like, you know, that they got this experience, you know, and even I’ll give an example today on our team meeting, we did a co regulation practice that actually one of our incredible you know, facilitators and community space holders, Rodney held for us and, you know, within three minutes, that’s it, we felt super connected and supported. And I’m ready to kind of rock as a team, you know, and so that those are kind of some of the skills that we teach, and unleash of how can you, you know, deepen your skills around this so that you can give your community this just incredible transformational experience.

Blue  

Mm hmm. Yeah. Oh, I love that.

Whether it’s in person or online, right, right.

Blue  

Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I would, I would not have participated In your program that was pre COVID. But I, it was, it’s a lot. We, you are in California, I’m in Arizona. So, like on a map, not super far, but you know, we’re all busy with our lives and taking that time to travel is not always possible. Um, I feel blessed, I got to do both, like I would fly out sometimes. Other times, but I’m still connected friends with so many from that group. So,

yeah, yeah. And that’s what’s so exciting, too. It’s like, it doesn’t have to be one or the other as well. Right? And that’s one of the things that I’m really passionate about teaching is like, how do you do it? How do you create these multifaceted transformational experiences for your clients and community? Right, and that, you know, then you don’t have to do all this space holding, right? You get to hold space, but your community also hold space, your community is creating that container, not just you. And because of that they’re getting, you know, there’s healing, and Aha, was that happen? Not from you, the space holder, quote, unquote, but from the community, you know, and getting the perspective of all these other incredible souls, you know, and so, and I know, I mean, I’m like, I think our I think our content is really good. But I’m, like, I’m convinced that these people keep coming back year after year after year, because of that community that we’ve created. You know, I mean, we have people that are that have been working with us for five years, you know, and keep, just keep retaining, right? These are some of the skills that we teach in the workshops as well. But yeah. You know, it’s not just about you as the space a little bit, you need to learn those skills, how do we create that tight and close knit container? Right. So you know, those skills, then it’s like, you can keep, you know, recycling that and, and then the circle just kind of keeps holding itself.

Blue  

Yeah, well, that’s like, I think you really touched on something key there, which is that, yeah, as as facilitators, we’re maybe we’re teaching something we have some offering for people. That’s part of it. But like, the presence, the, the space that we’re creating, that’s really, that’s the thing that has people follow all the way through, and or come back to doing more. Right, like how many, you know, you can be an awesome yoga instructor. But you know, how there’s some teachers that are just like, Oh, everybody wants to go to that class? Yeah, there’s that extra?

Yeah, there’s, there’s an extra going on there. want that extra? Right? Yeah. Want to learn that extra?

Blue  

Yeah, yeah. So, um, oh, my gosh, so, so much more we could talk about, but I do want to make sure that we mentioned because this is such a great opportunity to kind of bring this discussion to life so so that people are listening, who might want to, like, actually see what is it like to be held by Ashley. And before actually, one other thought I had was, I love like, you and I were so different in our approach, so you were saying, you know, you, you aren’t have this experience of being held, and then you create it your own way. And so I just love that, like, you are like, fire, like, go like, go, go go. And also, I mean, there is this safe, like, fierce love container that you create. I think my style is more like, it’s super soft and gentle. And it’s whatever you want, and you got this. So so it’s really, it takes all kinds of space holder. For facilitators, we need different kinds of different things or, or different people need different things depending on what they need, what they’ve been through. You know, what’s next. So I just want to highlight that too, is like, Yeah, you don’t, you don’t have to be like that one yoga teacher. If everyone was trying to be like the one, then there’s no magic.

But essentially, what it is is about finding your magic and owning your unique free brilliance and learning how to weave that into your Core aligned offerings and then how to hold that space market it you know, create those, you know, kind of that close knit community and that’s how it how it works. You know, I could be doing the exact same thing as blues doing but We’re gonna do it differently. And someone might resonate with or someone might resonate with me. Or like you said, someone might resonate with blue at a certain time in their lives and me at a certain, but you know, it’s theirs. And that’s the beauty of it. Right? It’s like, there is no one size fits all here a situation, right. And it’s just but it’s learning what is my, what is my you know, what is my little magic? You know? Yeah, element that I want to bring to this work, you know?

Blue  

Yeah, yeah, definitely. And I think what, like the bridge I want to create here between what we’re gonna talk about next is that, I think it also it needs to be said, and I, you alert, it alluded to this earlier in our conversation today, but is to highlight this part, which is that women people identify as women and people are perceived as women, we tend to be expected to give to hold space to provide endlessly, right? So with, without respect for, like, where do we get the energy to do that? Or how, you know, what about our opportunities to be held to, you know, get a break to have some things off our plates? So you Yeah, I just love that. That’s all really a part of what you teach. And what you bring is, yeah, how do we make this really sustainable, so that we’re holding space, from a place of generosity from a place of stillness, rather than obligation or depletion? So I think your, your upcoming workshop, which people can, can come to, it’s coming up soon for free, which is amazing.

Calm? Um, well, to speak to that. Yeah. So we’re, you know, I’ve kind of mentioned unleash your impact. That is an online facilitators training course that supports folks in, you know, creating more income, time freedom, and, you know, a positive ripple effect in the world through experiential groups, retreats, events, program circles, right. And so one of the kinds of uploading offerings that, that we’re putting out into the world is three part, a free three part workshop series, unleash your impact workshop series, and the first workshop is called unleash your time freedom. And this is one of the things that it’s funny. And in more recent years, I was I realized, like, this is probably one of like, the key, the key piece, in spite of doing of doing group work of expanding into group work, is that it allows for you to maximize your time, it allows for you to kind of leverage your your schedule, and as you said, right after working after our work together, you double, you nearly doubled your income, are you more than doubled your income, I don’t know. And you bought back like half of your time to write because that’s what group work allows for you to do. And so, you know, it’s really this workshop is really about, you know, learning how can how can we increase our earning potential while reclaiming hours of our precious and sacred time? How can in our business models if you, you know, you’re an entrepreneur or even aspiring to be or think someday you’ll be an entrepreneur? Or have that as a side hustle, right? How can we while we’re building that create ample space for time off, whilst you know, scaling? How can we create more quality time with our families, our friends ourselves? How can we feel more balanced and essentially sustainable, right, and so, you know, we’re talking a lot in this workshop about creating an ideal schedule for ourselves that feels spacious, sustainable and seasonally focused. I talk a lot about cycles and rhythms and seasons and and so we want to get our kind of our businesses and our workflows cycled up with nature so that we can feel more sustainable, sustainable, long term right? How can we Pretty strong boundaries around our time on and our sacred time off so that we’re not missing out on really important things that we want to be doing in our, in our lives, right? How can we create pockets for non negotiable self care and creativity and joy, right actually building joy into your model. And I am like, at this point, privileged to be able to take off, you know, two to essentially two month long sabbaticals per year and weaving that into my business model. You know, five years ago, I wouldn’t have been able to do that. But now I am at a place where, you know, I’ve chosen to be able to do that with where my business is kind of gotten to, and I think it’s important to understand, like, the more space that we can build in now, the more that the more potential for it is that you have, you’re creating a sustainable business, you know, for yourself. And so, I’m really excited about this workshop, I, you know, I, I’m very passionate about this conversation around, you know, scaling, you know, scaling beyond scaling to where you want to get to one, whether that be six figures and beyond, or, you know, if it’s not, if it’s not six figures, just getting to where you really want to be, but then not doing that, to the detriment of your own sanity, and getting yourself into a community that feels supportive and grounded and where you can be on the other side of that space holding. That’s what we’re going to be talking about in this workshop.

Blue  

Oh, yes. Oh, my gosh, I can’t wait. I think

mentioned, when you sign up for this workshop, you will also get access to workshops two, and three, which will go into unleashing your signature group program and teaching you how to become a more impactful leader while scaling your business through group work. As well as unleashing your, we like to say 100k Plus business without a huge list, which this is when you start to understand those retainment skills of how do you continue to retain communities over time? I don’t have a big email list. I don’t have a huge social media community. Yet we’re a multi six figure business. Right. And so how did we do that? Is through those building those relationships? Right? And those are some of the workshops that we’re offering out there for free, that then lead into, you know, the unleash your impact facilitator training course.

Blue  

Awesome. Yeah. Oh, someone was a guest.

For that out there that around money mindset and unleash your impact, which I have heard from multiple people, multiple participants with that program, how impactful that workshop in and of itself was so you know, it’s, it’s really, yeah, we have these great, amazing, like, training modules. But then we have all these guest mentor mini master classes, they get delivered alongside those modules and believes them, I think it’s week one, you know, you’re just right.

Blue  

Off, right. Yeah, I just, I love so much like, starting with time. Because it is a resource we all have and feel like you don’t have enough of. So I think that is one of society’s great lies, and manipulations is like, you know, this sense of we have this like, we’re like, I’m so busy. How do I even do this? Or I have this idea? How do we even fit that in or, you know, it’s, oh, it’s gonna take so much time to create a business like that, or, you know, whatever these things are? Not to say that things don’t take time. Obviously, they do. But I love how you t like, you know, time isn’t all linear time isn’t all finite. Like, it’s really, I think, turning this conversation in a different way. And I mean, like we’ve mentioned a couple of times I my whole relationship with how much time I spend working, shifted after I worked with you so yeah, kinds of things are possible. And I know I know. There’s probably someone listening right now that’s like, oh, just take a month off. Oh, just work when you want and have joy. That sounds like a frequent fantasy. I totally get it and felt that way before. It’s so I would just extra invite you to come and hear what Ashley has to say. opens up for you because I’m not here to convince you but like it’s possible.

I mean, all I will say is that you know, and I talked about this like I when I was first starting in this business for years, I was working a 75 hour week, and now, I do about a 25 hour week. And we’ve scaled, you know, radically over the last few years. And, you know, how do you do that, it’s like, we can reclaim our time, we can reclaim, you know, our, our time, our precious resource that, you know, we need to continue to feel we feel like we need to buy back more and more and more of right. And continue to scale, you know, and continue to make a greater positive ripple effect in the world, right. And so, that’s really what, you know,

Blue  

what we’re up to over here.

And to do it in a in a really grounded, sustainable, seasonally centric way, you know, and, and it won’t, you know, that won’t work for everyone and it, it’s, you’re gonna find, you know, what’s going to work for you. And that’s what we’re all about to it’s really about you doing you but I think understanding that we have choice and understanding that we actually don’t have to do it in this overly masculine kind of like, patriarchal driven way of, of overdoing over pushing over producing all the things. That that is not a recipe for sustainability long term. Right. So

Blue  

yeah, yeah, I mean, it’s, there’s real power and stepping back and noticing what we are choosing what we’re agreeing to, in this world. Just that awareness, and, you know, you might keep choosing it, or it’s the best option right now. But, but just stepping back to notice the choice that we have, and I, you know, recognizing they’re going to be different sets of choices, different menus at different times in different contexts, different populations, but, but there is an amazing amount of choice that unless we examine, we may just never notice and choose differently. So, so powerful. I love that this is a three part series. I know this is like this is new, that you’re doing it this way. Yeah. It’s I just can’t wait to see what

workshop builds on the next, we should probably tell them how they can access those.

Blue  

Yeah, come join us. If you you can find I’ll put all the links for details about the workshops that are coming up at a path of her own.com which is also where you can find shownotes transcripts, all the extra things ways to connect with Ashley. Yeah, path of her own.com This is going to be where we’ll put it all for you. And yeah, it’s gonna be great. So and also, I want to be totally transparent about everything that’s happening, right, these workshops are really I think a way to get to know is actually someone you want to work with learn more from and if you do, then she’s got this incredible full body training coming up called unleash your impact. And and as she mentioned, I’m I’m one of the amazing guest teachers so there’s, you’re gonna be learning from all kinds of people that I also love and admire and have learned things from so there’ll be there’ll be tons more detail coming about that but I just Yeah, full transparency that I am a part of that I’m also a proud affiliate of that so the links I’m going to put on my sight are going to give me credit for you coming and showing up and and if it’s right for you then I will be alerted and rewarded and I cannot wait to celebrate with you because I’ve done this before this affiliate and guest teaching before and the feedback both from like random participants I didn’t know who just like heard the money workshop that I did as part of it has been amazing. And then people from my own community who’ve done trainings with you just to see them blossom has been such a gift as well. So yeah, it’s been doing all this and

for before yeah to support your community to and and yeah, we have no attachment to outcome right like we have absolutely no attachment outcome of whether or not you step forward into into unleash, but we just want we do want to get these skills and these training out to the masses. And we hope that you can join us and if you choose to step into unleash amazing. We’re so excited about that. You know?

Blue  

Yeah, yeah, I think just the value you bring to workshops, too. I know some workshops are just like, I mean, all about the sale of the next thing and you’re really generous with Yeah, this is this is valuable in and of itself. This will Give you some tools right here. And then of course, it takes more time and guidance to like really implement things. So if that’s what you want to do grapes, and if not just, yeah, here’s some tools to get started with. So I love that. Awesome. Well, thank you for being here in space with me for all the space that you hold for your willingness to be held. Such a joy always to connect with you, Ashley, thank you.

Thank you so much blue. And thank you so much for everyone tuning in. We just appreciate you tuning into this conversation and creating a new way and a new path and a path of her own to do this work right? To do the work that we’re we’re up to in the world and that we get to really carve our own way of doing it and in a way that feels super good and aligned and sustainable to us. So thank you so much for having me blue. I appreciate it every time love dropping in with you.

Blue  

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